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The handler & or their carer is solely responsible for the conduct, care, feeding, hygiene and toileting of their animal. ion . 2.1 Unhindered passage Agreed: That surface of all walkway should have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired (where they correectly and appropriately placed), installed on their surfaces especially if there are steps, ramps, bends or corners along a pathway. That any steps or steep ramps, not be used unless there are also lifts provided. Continuous accessibility Agreed: This applies to 2,2 Continuous accessibility That the surface of all walkway should have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired (where they properly and appropriately placed), installed on their surfaces especially if there are steps, ramps, bends or corners along their pathR=====>>V>d>f>>@@@zA|AA J.J0J\J$a$$a$$a$ d&dP^` d^`  ;^`;1.9 Access path Agreed 1.11AX Assistance Dog An assistance dog, is a dog that is registered and trained to alleviate the effects of a person s disability on public transport. An assistance dog must be under the direct control of the person with the disability & or their carer at all times and wear a recognised form of identification as a trained assistance dog. The handler & or their carer is solely responsible for the conduct, care, feeding, hygiene and toileting of their animal. As long as this is not a request for complete exemption from accepting persons with their guide dogs and carer within the public transport. 1.11AX could include the appropriate sections from DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION ACT 1992 SECT 9 (a) a visual disability; or (b) a hearing disability; or (c) any other disability; or (d) a guide dog; or (e) a dog trained to assist a person in activities where hearing is required, or because of any matter related to that fact; or (f) any other animal trained to assist the aggrieved person to alleviate the effect of the disability, or because of any matter related to that fact; 1.11BX Boarding Point There is a need to add the requirement for the supply of ramps or lifting devices for those using a Disability Aid (ie. wheel chairs or such devices)., either here or in 1.18 Infrastructure. 1.11CX Booked services on trains As long as this is not a request for exemption from accepting persons and or their carers and dogs within the public transport system. This should not be seen as an exemption from Booked Services: This should only applies where the booking service and ticketing is readily available many stations today do not have ticket offices. Where prior booking is required- There not always a provision for the collection of tickets as tickeway. That any steps or steep ramps, not be used unless there are also lifts provided. 2.4 Minimum unobstructed width Agreed 2.4X Minimum unobstructed width for railway platforms Agreed: That the surface of all walkway should have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired (where they properly and appropriately placed), installed on their surfaces especially if there are steps, ramps, bends or corners along their pathway. That any steps or steep ramps, not be used unless there are also lifts provided. 2.5 Poles and obstacles, etc Agreed: That the surface of all walkways have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired installed on adjacent surfaces. 2.5AX Level Crossings Agreed 2.6 Access paths conveyances Agreed 2.8 Extent of path Agreed: provided that the surface of all walkways have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired installed on their surf 0"2"^"l"n"z"""""" ##*#$$$%%B,P,R,,,X-Z-|- ...<......˾ҹҧ蠗萉{v{l{b\ 5CJ h5B*CJ hph5B*CJ \ph B*ph5B*CJ OJQJ\ph 7B*ph 0JB*ph0JB*CJ ph 0JB*ph#0J5B*CJ OJQJ\^JphCJ ^J0J5B*CJ ^Jph B*^Jph0JB*^Jph5B*OJQJ^Jph OJQJ^J5B*CJ OJQJ\^Jph$aces, especially where there is any unusal feature along the pathway. 3.1 Circulation space for mobility aids to turn in Agreed Delete Clause 4.1 Minimum widthAgreed 4.2 Two-way access paths and aerobridges Agreed 4.3 Passing areas conveyances Agreed 5.1 When resting points must be provided Agreed 6.1 Ramps on access paths Agreed: provided that the surface of Ramps on all walkways have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired installed on their surfaces, especially if there is any unusal feature along the pathway. 6.2 Boarding ramps Agreed: provided there are no a stepup or step down from any gangway / ramp in the case of ferries 6.3 Minimum allowable width .(1*1\11112B2F2|2~24444445j55550626b8d8j8889"9X9Z9999:$:2:4:::r::::::>;ꯦ{5>*B*CJ OJQJ\phCJ 5CJ hnH tH 5B*CJ hnH phtH B*mH phsH 0JB*mH phsH  0JB*ph 5CJ h5B*CJ hph5CJ OJQJ\5B*CJ \ph B*ph OJQJ^J5B*CJ OJQJ\ph04j5b8d8899$:2:4:r::::<<<==P=R= d^` &dPd&dP^` d^` Oh+'0t  0 < HT\dl1ssGeorge ArchboldeoreorNormalAGeorge Archbold5orMicrosoft Word 9.0@9+@r@$,解z ; Fv\kFP@ ting is not always available prior to all train journeys. While bookings can be undertaken by phone that does not give the user a ticket. Also for the the disabled pensioner they have to then pay for there ticket when they board the train and then wait for weeks before they may get a refund and this not always forthcoming. Bookings are often required short notice from many unserviced stations. 1.11DX Unbooked services on trains Agreed 1.15X Disability aid Agreed: Will any section of this paper state t ՜.+,0 hp   ResearchReYI 1 TitleGeorge Archbold5orMicrosoft Word 9.0@9+@r@$,解z ; Fv\kFP@  i4@4 NormalCJ_HmH sH tH L`L Heading 4$@&5B*CJOJQJ\phtH N`N Heading 7$@&"5>*B*CJOJQJ\phtH H `H Heading 9 $@&5B*CJ OJQJphtH <A@< Default Paragraph Font,o, CharSectnoOJQJjoj HR,Regulation Heading$<h^`<5CJOJQJtH o "R1 Char Char,1. or 1.(1) Char Char-$ <dx^`EF| AHIipq%%%%%%~ %f%% %%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%ck%%%%%%%%%%%%w %%%>%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%.ntXYo./P   %     K S T b 5 6 L st[\u>EF| AHIipq !0:000 0 0 0000030&P 1}. A!"S#S$S% As long as this is not a request for complete exemption from accepting persons with their guide dogs and carer within the public transport. 1.11AX could include the appropriate sections from DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION ACT 1992 SECT 9 (a) a visual disability; or (b) a hearing disability; or (c) any other disability; or (d) a guide dog; or (e) a dog trained to assist a person in activities where hearing is required, or because of any matter related to that fact; or (f) any other animal trained to assist the aggrieved person to alleviate the effect of the disability, or because of any matter related to that fact; 1.11BX Boarding Point There is a need to add the requirement for the supply of ramps or lifting devices for those using a Disability Aid (ie. wheel chairs or such devices)., either here or in 1.18 Infrastructure. 1.11CX Booked services on trains As long as this is not a request for exemption from accepting persons and or their carers and dogs within the public transport system. This should not be seen as an exemption from Booked Services: This should only applies where the booking service and ticketing is readily available many stations today do not have ticket offices. Where prior booking is required- There not always0:00o0o0o0o0o0o0o:000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000.z|$D *,l  ǾǾΔǾǾ΂tǾ0J5B*CJ \^Jph"56B*CJ OJQJ\^Jph6B*CJ OJQJ^Jph 0JCJ ^J6CJ ]^JCJ ^J B*^Jph0JB*^Jph OJQJ^J5B*CJ OJQJ\^Jph5B*CJ \ph5B*\phCJ B*ph 0JB*ph-.nN D $ d^`a$d & Fd a provision for the collection of tickets as ticketing is not always available prior to all train journeys. While bookings can be undertaken by phone that does not give the user a ticket. Also for the the disabled pensioner they have to then pay for there ticket when they board the train and then wait for weeks before they may get a refund and this not always forthcoming. Bookings are often required short notice from many unserviced stations. 1.11DX Unbooked services on trains Agreed 1.15X Disability aid Agreed: Will any section of this paper state that station staff for rail transport or coach & bus transport will make provision by having  Ramps or Lifts available to assist in the boarding of a disability aid which is a device designed to be used by a person with a disability to alleviate the effects of that disability. Exception could be taken to Reason 1.15X (above)  . . . are not suitable and often not safe on trains and stations users of chairs or their assistants are capable of managing these devices at all times, given the appropriate assistance required. 1.18 Infrastructure Does 1.18 Infrastructure (1.) include ramps for boarding trains and lifts for the diabled using wheel chairs or (2.) any other disabled person requiring assisstance to move between platforms. 1.18X Level crossing Agreed 1.19AX Mobility aid Agreed 1.19BX Nominated accessible boarding point Agreed. 1.21 Premises Fair comment, however, the access by lifts and ramp should be provided where there are multiple paltforms in use. This is not clearly spelt out in 1.18 Infrastructure (for example Strathfield Station, Sydney). 1.23X Sleeping berth Agreed: Are 1.23X disability allocated Sleeping berths, to be suitable and available for a disabled person and attendant.  0"2"^"l"n""""" ##*#$$$ d^` d^`d d^`$d^`a$hat station staff for rail transport or coach & bus transport will make provision by having  Ramps or Lifts available to assist in the boarding of a disability aid which is a device designed to be used by a person with a disability to alleviate the effects of that disability. Exception could be taken to Reason 1.15X (above)  . . . are not suitable and often not safe on trains and stations users of chairs or their assistants are capable of managing these devices at all times, given the appropriate assis1George ArchboldGeorge Archbold% i4@4 NormalCJ_HmH sH tH L`L Heading 4$@&5B*CJOJQJ\phtH D`D Heading 6$@&5B*CJ\phtH N`N Heading 7$@&"5>*B*CJOJQJ\phtH H`H Heading 8$@&5B*OJQJ\phtH H `H Heading 9 $@&5B*CJ OJQJphtH <A@< Default Paragraph Font,o, CharSectnoOJQJjoj HR,Regulation Heading$<h^`<5CJOJQJtH o "R1 Char Char,1. or 1.(1) Char Char-$ <dx^`261;?C*DlHoH>Q0 [ $ T  '.ntXYo./P   %     K S T b 5 6 L st[\u>EF| AHIipq !pq+,xM n"# $ $G$N$O$x$$$$%%%%%&&&4&;&<&f&&&&&&&&'2'9':'U'''( ( (3(;(<([())*#*$*O*W*X*s*{*|**1,2,V,---Y/Z//11d1=2>2c222233M33334444446575a5o555666 7778|9}9999: :!:_:f:g:::::::;0;1;7;;;;;<<2<O<<<=O=P===>>>^?_?v????@ @3@g@h@@@@@@@@ ABBBBeCfCzCCCCCCCCCCDDDDDD&D'D(D)D*DQD`DDDDDVEWE}EVFWF}FTGUG{GgHhHiHjHkHlHmHnHqH%% %%%%~ %f%%%Q"%%%:. %%%%%'%%% %%%%S%%%s}%%%>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%>%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%tance required. 1.18 Infrastructure Does 1.18 Infrastructure (1.) include ramps for boarding trains and lifts for the diabled using wheel chairs or (2.) any other disabled person requiring assisstance to move between platforms. 1.18X Level crossing Agreed 1.19AX Mobility aid Agreed 1.19BX Nominated accessible boarding point Agreed. 1.21 Premises Fair comment, however, the access by lifts and ramp should be provided where there are multiple paltforms in use. This is not clearly spelt out in 1.18 Infrastructure (for example Strathfield Station, Sydney). 1.23X Sleeping berth Agreed: Are 1.23X disability allocated Sleeping berths, to be suitable and available for a disabled person and attendant. Part 1X Mobility aids (new part) Agreed 1X.2 Performance criteria Agreed, with a reservation because of variability of current aids and new aids coming onto the market. 1X.3 Orientation Agreed, with reservations on the meaning of the variable  orientation . 2.1 Unhindered passage Agreed: That surface of all walkway should have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired (where they correectly and appropriately placed), installed on their surfaces especially if there are steps, ramps, bends or corners along a  pathway. That any steps or steep ramps, not be used unless there are also lifts provided. Continuous accessibility Agreed: This applies to 2,2 Continuous accessibility That the surface of all walkway should have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired (where they properly and appropriately placed), installed on their surfaces especially if there are steps, ramps, bends or corners along their pathway. 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That any steps or steep ramps, not be used unless there are also lifts provided. 2.5 Poles and obstacles, etc Agreed: That the surface of all walkways have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired installed on adjacent surfaces. 2.5AX Level Crossings Agreed 2.6 Access paths conveyances Agreed 2.8 Extent of path Agreed: provided that the surface of all walkways have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired installed on their surfaces, especially where there is any unusal feature along the pathway. 3.1 Circulation space for mobility aids to turn in Agreed Delete Clause 4.1 Minimum width Agreed 4.2 Two-way access paths and aerobridges Agreed 4.3 Passing areas conveyances Agreed 5.1 When resting points must be provided Agreed 6.1 Ramps on access paths Agreed: provided that the surface of Ramps on all walkways have TACTILE INDICATORS (Australian Standard 1428.4) as an aid for the blind and visually impaired installed on their surfaces, especially if there is any unusal feature along the pathway. 6.2 Boarding ramps Agreed: provided there are no a stepup or step down from any gangway / ramp in the case of ferries 6.3 Minimum allowable width Agreed 8.1 Boarding points and kerbs Agreed 8.2 When boarding devices must be provided The distance between the train doorway and the platform is so variable at many stations. This is an ongoing problem at some platforms, where a disabled person is to board or leave a train there should be some form of warning or assistance either from Station Staff or Train crew. Even using a Guide dog it is difficult at times to determine how far you have to step out. Delete Clause 8.5 Agreed. 8.6 Maximum load to be supported by boarding device Agreed. Delete Clause 8.7 Agreed 8.8 Notification by passenger of need for boarding device Agreed: the situation can be alleviated where station staff or train crews are available, then it is often possible for them to assist in such an action. 9.1 Minimum size for allocated space Agreed: Provided there is allocated space on all means of transport for an assistance dogs to lie down regardless of the dog s size (for example: my Guide dog requires approximately 132 x 34cm To lie down on a long distance trip). In most cases the space between seat rows gives insufficient space for an assistance dog to lie down. 9.6 Number of allocated spaces to be provided rail, tram, light rail cars Agreed: Provided there is allocated space on all means of transport for an assistance dogs to lie down regardless of the dog s size (for example: my Guide dog requires approximately 132 x 34cm to lie down on trip). In most cases the space between seat rows gives insufficient space for an assistance dog to lie down. In many cases there is insufficient space under a seat for an assisstance dog to liedown or sit. There is a need for persons with an assisstance dog and escort/carer to have an allocation of 2 seat with floor space for the assistance dog to le down on long distance booked seat trains, or coaches where they are used to replace a train due to a technical fault making it impossible for the train to run. There is generally insufficient space for an assistance dog on a long distance coaches. 9.7 Consolidation of allocated spaces Agreed: Provided there is allocated space on all means of transport for an assistance dogs to lie down regardless of the dog s size (for example: my Guide dog requires approximately 132 x 34cm to lie down on trip). In most cases the space between seat rows gives insufficient space for an assistance dog to lie down and in many cases there is insufficient space under a seat for an assisstance dog to liedown or sit. There is a need for persons with an assisstance dog and escort/carer to have an allocation of 2 seat with floor space for the assistance dog to lie down on long distance booked seat trains, Buses or coaches where they are used to replace a train due to a technical fault making it impossible for the train to run. There is generally insufficient space for an assistance dog on a Buses or long distance coaches. 9.10 International symbol of accessibility to be displayed Agreed 10.1 Compliance with Australian Standard Agreed 10.1X Compliance with Australian Standard Agreed: provided grates allow an assistance dog room to circle around the grate or travel around them as dogs in the main do not like to cross grates unless they are short and allow the dog to jump it withot disadvantaging the handler. 11.1 Compliance with Australian Standard premises and infrastructure Agreed 11.2 Handrails to be provided on access paths Agreed 11.3 Handrails on steps Agreed 11.4 Handrails above besides access paths Agreed: change section heading to besides? 11.5 Grabrail compliance requirements Agreed 11.6 Grabrail to be provided where fares are to be paid Agreed 11.7 Grabrails to be provided in allocated spaces Agreed 12.1 Doors on access paths Agreed, provided that the guard / driver has a line of sight of all doors prior to closing the same. 12.2 Compliance with Australian Standard premises and infrastructur>;;;<<<<<==B=R=X======>> >V>d>f>l>>?>?B?x?z?@@@@@zA|AAAJ J.J0J*B*CJ ph5B*CJ OJQJ\ph B*ph 0JB*ph OJQJ^JCJ 5B*CJ \ph5CJ hnH tH 5B*CJ hnH phtH 0e Agreed. 12.3 Weight activated doors and sensors Agreed. 12.4 Clear opening of doorways Agreed However many unisex, male, female toilets are to small for a disabled person to enter, especially if they must take their assistance dog in with them. For a person in a wheel chair they would be impossible. How else can a disabed person use a toilet on a long distance train? [As when the disabled toilet is unserviceable, as has been in several recent occassions.] 13.1 Compliance with Australian Standard premises and infrastructure Agreed 14.1 Stairs not to be sole means of access Agreed. 14.3 Stairs on conveyances Agreed. 15.1 Unisex accessible toilet premises and infrastructure Agreed: However many unisex, male, female toilets are to small for a disabled person to enter, especially if they must take their assistance dog in with them. For a person in a wheel chair they would be impossible. How else can a disabed person use a toilet on a log distance train? [As when the disabled toilet is unserviceable, as has been in several recent occassions.] 15.2 Location of accessible toilets Agreed However accessible toilets must be available, eg.,where there is a need for the handler to take their assistance dogs in with them or for the person in a wheel chair. There must be signage and easy directions to alternate toilets. [At Central station many of the staff are unable to direct a disabled persons to the appropriate toilets.] Unisex accessible toilet ferries and trains Agreed, where toilets are available.However accessible toilets must be available, eg.,where there is a need for the handler to take their assistance dogs in with them or for the person in a wheel chair. There must be signage and easy directions to alternate toilets. [At Central station many of the staff are unable to direct a disabled persons to the appropriate toilets.] 15.4 Requirements for accessible toilets ferries and accessible rail cars Agreed, where toilets are available.However accessible toilets must be available, eg.,where there is a need for the handler to take their assistance dogs in with them or for the person in a wheel chair. There must be signage and easy directions to alternate toilets. [At Central station many of the staff are unable to direct a disabled persons to the appropriate toilets.] 15.6 Stops to be offered if accessible toilet not provided coaches Agreed: most toilets on coaches are not suitable for use by the disabled, Therefore, stops must be at a reasonable frequency not several hours apart and preferably where there is some greenery for a dog to be taken. 16.2 Compliance with AS2899.1 (1986) Agree provided Braille or raised signage is provided 16.3 Accessibility symbols to incorporate directional arrows Agree provided Braille and or rasised signage is provided 16.5 Accessibility symbol to be visible on accessible doors Agree provided Braille and or rasised signage is provided 17.4 Destination signs to be visible from boarding point Agree provided signage is large enough for vision impaired to read. 17.5 Electronic notices Agreed; provided Electronic signage, if restricted (as given above) there must be an understandable Public Adress system in use 17.6 Raised lettering or symbols or use of Braille Agreed, Provided ther is a suitable alternative produced for any blind or visually impaired person. Part 18 Tactile ground surface indicators 18.1 Location Do not agree: a user of the white cane is capable of receiving a clear message from correctly laid TGSIs, there message is loud and clear. 18.2 Style and dimensions Surely mathmatical practicalitiees do not preclude the meeting of AS1428.4 if a cutter is well used or curved TGSI can be procured. There is no reason why curves parrallel to a platform edge cannot be made. 18.4 Instalment at railway stations Agreed: however, I fail to see why the AS1424. 4 (1992) Clause 6.7. cannot used to meet the variation of accepting the alternative hazard barriers, such as a fence, wall or architectural solutions show a commonsense approach to the problem. 19.1 Emergency warning systems NO. There appears to be an almost complete failure to give any clear direction as to how any person with or without a disability is to locate and or use such an exit pathway. There is a need for a plan for the evacuation of all persons including the disabled to be illustrated and on show, who will assist thedisabled to find and use the exit path. 20.1 Illumination levels premises and infrastructure Agreed 21.1 Compliance with Australian Standard premises and infrastructure Agreed: It would be difficult 21.2 Passenger-operated devices for opening and closing doors Agreed 21.3 Location of passenger-operated controls for opening and locking doors Agreed 22.1 Tables, benches, counters, etc Agreed 22.5 Accessible sleeping berths trains Agreed: a reasonable allocation Seats Agreed: provided seats and furniture are placed clear of the normal pathways. Part 24 Gateways Gateways and checkouts Agreed: provided there is provision for a gateway with clear access for disabled persons to pass through. Part 25 Payment of fares 25.3 Ticket vending machines Agreed provided there is provision for all disabled including the blind and visually impaired persons to purchase tickets 25.4 Circulation space in front of a ticket vending machine Agreed: provided there is provision for all disabled to purchase tickets Part 26 Hearing augmentation listening systems 26.2 Public address systems conveyances Agreed: however, there must be provision for all disabled persons to use the transport system, therefore there would need to be staff available to assist or direct disabled persons. Otherwise it will be extremly difficult for the disabled to use the services. 27.1 Access to information about transport services Agreed: provided all transportation staff has the same ability, and can make themselves clearly understood by all persons. 27.2 Equivalent access Agreed: provided these conditions are meet. Size and format of printing Agreed: yes, the correct and readable colour contrast is very important. 27.4 Access to information about location Agreed: however, visual displays have limited value Part 28 Booked services 28.1 Notice of requirement for accessible travel Agreed Delete Clause 28.2 Agreed 28.3 Location of carers, assistants and assistance dogs Agreed: this is satisactory, provided the supplier will provide suitable transport to meet these conditions when alternate transport needs to be used (as when rail service passengers must suddenly transfere to coach services for long distance transport. This becomes extremely difficult for disabled persons. Assistance dogs as a rule cannot cope with the small spaces allocated on coaches). Part 29 Food and drink services 29.1 Equal access to food and drink services Agreed: provided when any alternate transport is used; (ie. Coaches, then all services should be available to disabled persons). Part 30 Belongings 30.1 Disability aids to be in addition to baggage allowance Agreed Part 31 Priority 31.1 Priority seating Agreed Part 32 Adoption Part 33 Compliance Part 34 Review Schedule 1 Target dates for compliance (section 33.2) Part 1 Target date 31 December 2007 Agree to Target Date for Part 1 Part 2 Target date 31 December 2012 Target date Change to 2010, for all of Part 2., rather than the 2012 date, which is considered to be an excessive (for no valid reason). Part 3 Target date 31 December 2017 I believe that the Target date should be Changed to 2012 for Part 3.1, whereas 3.2 & 3.3 should be 2015 rather than the 2017 date, which is considered to be an excessive time frame without a sound reason being given. Part 4 Target date 31 December 2022 I believe that the Target date should be Changed to 2017 for all of Part 4., rather than the 2022 date, which is considered to be an excessive time frame allowance. What is a reason to validate the long lead time. Part 5 Target date 31 December 2032 I believe that the Target date should be Changed to at least 2022 for all of Part 5., rather than the 2032 date, which is considered to be an excessive time frame allowance, even for long term planning. 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